Comments on: We must all fight the left wing BNP

By: JAmes

JAmes — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:52:55 +0000

The idea that the BNP is left wing is bizzare. They are far right and have always been.

“Left wing traditions of facism” ? Talk about trying to smear the left. Stalin and Mao were never left wing. They used the discourse of Marx but never implemented it. Marxists believe in an unltimate goal of NO GOVERNMENT and neither Stalin or Mao even attempted this.

By: steve

steve — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:57:39 +0000

I have said it once and I will say it again. Do you have an opinion on the BNP?

http://stevehynd.wordpress.com/2009/11/19/do-you-have-an-opinon-about-the-bnp/

By: davecole.org » blog » archive » Pointless sectarianism

davecole.org » blog » archive » Pointless sectarianism — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:31:04 +0000

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By: Talking the BNP down « World of Wad

Talking the BNP down « World of Wad — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:41:14 +0000

[...] and bounds. But what he and his party stand for is appalling. They are fascist and extreme (though not so clearly aligned to the right as is commonly perceived). We should not use the tools of fascism to close down the debate. Let’s rise above that, [...]

By: Joshua

Joshua — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:25:56 +0000

This post is a callow attempt to make the Conservatives look even holier than they actually aren’t. One thing the majority clearly believes in is that the BNP is in evil and authoritarian party. But the accusations that they are left are completely flat. People assumed for example that the Nazis were left wing because of the National ‘SOCIALIST’ bit but socialism is democratic and the Nazis were anything but. But let’s not dwell on the past.

The BNP are opposed to any immigration and the Conservatives are closer to them on this issue than the left is (Labour don’t belong in the left anymore because they decided they wanted to appeal to the rich). The BNP would bring back corporal and capital punishment which the left wing is entirely opposed to.

Most Conservatives tend to hold the military in high regard. Well, guess what, the BNP love the military. In fact, all you young Tory men, whether you like it or not, you’ll be part of it because the BNP would reintroduce conscription. Again, the left wing (socialists specifically) is staunchly opposed to conflict.

You can also run another parallel with the BNP and the right wing (Thatcherism in particular). The BNP would actively encourage physically adept, white men to take the world and have many children (much like the Aryans in Nazi Germany). Infamously, the membership of the party is 100% white and all other ethnicities are turned away. This shows that in the BNP’s hypothetical government, people who just happen to not be white or conscientious objectors (objecting of course to conflict; see previous paragraph) will not get an equal deal. This, I find, follows a very similar principle to Thatcher’s vile neo-liberalism model that encouraged people to become greedy, sated with cash. She advocated wealth and those who happened to come across it were rewarded with an irresponsibly neglected free market. This was her monetary equivalent of the BNP’s ’survival of the whitest’. If the rich took advantage of the poor in Thatcher’s Britain, anyone in any form of power would turn a blind eye. The same would happen if a butch, white man beat up a black man in the street under the guise of a BNP Britain. Money and violence are in my opinion, both forces. As Rousseau wrote: “to yield to force would be a necessity, not a will”. A responsible government (for example, a socialist one), would be against the side of the force.

That is why the BNP are on the right wing.

By: gordon

gordon — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 16:39:34 +0000

all the conservative party has to do to win a land slide victory is to make the following statement.
when in goverment the conservative party will stop all immigration and work visas for the life time of the conservative goverment and start to balance great britains books.(job done )

By: David Kirkman

David Kirkman — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:29:34 +0000

I suggest you concentrate more on you’re studies than politics, since you clearly can’t analyse results. LESS people voted BNP in this election than in the 2004 eu election.

As to the comment that the BNP are left wing, lol they’re about 1/10th of a cm to the right of you lot.

By: Adam J

Adam J — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:59:54 +0000

Peter, the BNP want more state control, though, that’s the whole point. I don’t know why the BNP appeal to you as a tory. Maybe it’s their nationalistic and anti-immigration stance – I have no idea. But, in my opinion, no true conservative could ever embrace a party who are against the free market, want more state control and want to nationalise industries. As I’ve said, the BNP are essentially the old Labour party but with racist and homophobic attitudes. The Nazis weren’t called the National ‘Socialists’ for nothing and this is essentially what the BNP are – I certainly would never vote for them. A vote for the BNP is as bad as voting Labour or the Lib Dems.

By: Peter R

Peter R — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:56:15 +0000

If the BNP are left wing and they appeal to me, who has voted Tory for the Last 30 Years, how can that be. If the BNP are picking up votes then it’s because of Tory and Labour policies, People are sick of the merry go round for the last 50 years, they want stability and the 2 main parties don’t offer it I’m afraid, therefor people will vote for stability and anyone who offers it will see a rise in their vote. Don’t blame people for voting BNP, blame the politicians. Lets be honest, the BNP didn’t dream up the idea of ID cards, they didn’t install 14 million cameras, it’s not the BNP who want’s a massive database on us all, and it certainly isn’t the BNP who’s eroding freedom of speech. Sorry but if people are voting BNP it’s because most of them are fearfull of the future. Who are the real fascists, the BNP or the EU.

By: Paul A

Paul A — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:48:47 +0000

All serious historians and political thinkers would characterise the BNP as far right – their anti-modernist impulses, virulent anti-communism, racial views, all mark them out as far right.

Similar to many other fascist parties, however, they are also anti-capitalist, which does confuse matters somewhat.

Whilst it is true to say they have taken root in traditional labour-voting areas, this distinction is mere point-scoring.

They are abhorrent and must be opposed.